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Categories without infoboxes
[edit]Commons:Report Special:UncategorizedCategories has a few categories that have Wikidata items, but don't seem to have gotten infoboxes. Also, so no automatic categorization happen. Samples: d:Q16873296, d:Q126934314, d:Q126201672. Enhancing999 (talk) 23:58, 24 August 2024 (UTC)
- @Enhancing999: I need to check further, but I think this is being caused by a Commons database bug, they aren't being returned as candidates by this script/database query. Likely worth reporting on Phabricator. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 05:42, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- I purged all categories on the list, but these are still on it. An alternative could be to query just for these categories and have your bot processes them.
- The discussion about the update of the report is at Bots/Work_requests. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:18, 25 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does the SQL you are using assume these categories have parent categories? So the ones on the list are systematically skipped. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good question, I don't know the answer. It might, since it has a dependency on categorylinks - but it would be a question for someone who knows the database structure better. I can't remember who wrote this SQL query for me now. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I can try to rewrite it to remove the dependency. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- If you can, that would be great - or an additional query to catch edge cases like these would also be easy to fit into the bot process. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Sure:
- Quarry:query/85833 (1075 rows, as current query but excluding 10000 category redirects)
- Quarry:query/85768 (proposed new query, 1167 rows, with 92 additional rows)
- Enhancing999 (talk) 21:08, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you plan to update it? Otherwise I can do the backlog on the list myself. For testing purposes, I think it would be better if the bot did it.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 15:57, 28 August 2024 (UTC)- Implemented, running in parallel for now, let's see how that goes tomorrow. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks. It seems to have worked, as none of the categories on Commons:Report Special:UncategorizedCategories now have items.
- In the meantime, I came up with Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox (those with infobox, but no item). Some have your bot as last user as it normalizes the infobox call. A few might have been disconnected from Wikidata, but most haven't. I'm still trying to figure out how to optimize the report.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 08:13, 29 August 2024 (UTC)- I wonder if there is a way that the bot could skip normalizing pages with empty infoboxes? This would avoid it appears as "last user" on Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox for edits like [1]. Alternatively, I guess I could try to query the revisions without the bot's edits.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 12:00, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- Not easily, it's part of the workflow to make sure that duplicate infoboxes aren't added to the categories. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a specific need for Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item? Somehow it seems suboptimal to exclude categories from Special:UncategorizedCategories merely because of an empty infobox.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 19:03, 30 August 2024 (UTC)- Yes, those are all cases where having a Wikidata item has been requested by a Commons user by their inclusion of the template, and should probably be created if it doesn't already exist. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- A thing I noticed when updating Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox is that when users work logically, they first create the category at Commons with the empty infobox and then create the item or connect it to an item, meaning that all new creations end up there and need to be purge first. Possibly others on Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item have this issue. A different problem are empty categories there. It seems many users just let them linger when they create a better or correctly named category.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 20:40, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- A thing I noticed when updating Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox is that when users work logically, they first create the category at Commons with the empty infobox and then create the item or connect it to an item, meaning that all new creations end up there and need to be purge first. Possibly others on Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item have this issue. A different problem are empty categories there. It seems many users just let them linger when they create a better or correctly named category.
- Yes, those are all cases where having a Wikidata item has been requested by a Commons user by their inclusion of the template, and should probably be created if it doesn't already exist. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:07, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- Is there a specific need for Category:Uses of Wikidata Infobox with no item? Somehow it seems suboptimal to exclude categories from Special:UncategorizedCategories merely because of an empty infobox.
- Not easily, it's part of the workflow to make sure that duplicate infoboxes aren't added to the categories. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 16:14, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
- I wonder if there is a way that the bot could skip normalizing pages with empty infoboxes? This would avoid it appears as "last user" on Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox for edits like [1]. Alternatively, I guess I could try to query the revisions without the bot's edits.
- Implemented, running in parallel for now, let's see how that goes tomorrow. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:47, 28 August 2024 (UTC)
- Do you plan to update it? Otherwise I can do the backlog on the list myself. For testing purposes, I think it would be better if the bot did it.
- Sure:
- If you can, that would be great - or an additional query to catch edge cases like these would also be easy to fit into the bot process. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 18:47, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- I can try to rewrite it to remove the dependency. Enhancing999 (talk) 13:23, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- That's a good question, I don't know the answer. It might, since it has a dependency on categorylinks - but it would be a question for someone who knows the database structure better. I can't remember who wrote this SQL query for me now. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 11:15, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
- Does the SQL you are using assume these categories have parent categories? So the ones on the list are systematically skipped. Enhancing999 (talk) 09:10, 26 August 2024 (UTC)
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Jan Michalski (Q70587255) & Jan Michalski (Q125552582)
[edit]Morning, mornig. Jan Michalski (Q70587255) & Jan Michalski (Q125552582) is the same person. 77.0.39.226 05:21, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Another ... Jan Michalski (Q96202510) and Jan Michalski (Q129948431) Polish theologian, historiographer and rector of the Jagiellonian University... it's the same person. Regards 77.0.39.226 06:43, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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Jan Michalski (Q107977377) and Jan Michalski (Q107977391)
[edit]The next .... Jan Michalski (Q107977377) and Jan Michalski (Q107977391) Polish educator... it's the same person. Regards 77.0.39.226 06:58, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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Another Jan Michalski (Q120758799) and Jan Michalski (Q107977356)
[edit]Another next ... Jan Michalski (Q120758799) and Jan Michalski (Q107977356) Polish bookseller, publisher died in Frankfurt/Main (16th mar 1945) ... it's the same person. Regards 77.0.39.226 07:31, 29 August 2024 (UTC)
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[edit]Danuta Rożynek (Q117089745) & Danuta Rożynek (Q111285884) Polish physician ... it's the same person. Regards 77.8.170.157 05:38, 30 August 2024 (UTC)
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Infoboxes
[edit]Hello Mike,
in the last few weeks I have connected Commonscats to (new or existing) wikidata objects, while so far no Infobox has been added by Pi bot in most cases.
For example, in subcategories of
- Category:Female sportspeople by country by sport
- Category:Male sportspeople by country by sport
- Category:World War memorials in Germany
- Category:Men of Germany by name
- Category:Men of Austria by name
- Category:Women of Austria by name
- Category:Women of Germany by name
- Category:Musical groups from Austria
- Category:Musical groups from Germany
- Category:Streets in Munich by name
- Category:Streets in Vienna by name
- Category:Cultural heritage monuments in Brandenburg with known ID
- Category:Churches in Germany
there should be Commonscats which are connected to a Wikidata object, but do not yet have an infobox. Maybe Pi bot could be started manually recursivly for these categories to add missing infoboxes.
Also see User talk:Mike Peel/Archive 10 - Infoboxes
Thanks a lot! M2k~dewiki (talk) 23:51, 1 September 2024 (UTC)
- I guess these would be some of them: https://petscan.wmcloud.org/?psid=29194852 (subcats of Category:Streets in Munich by name with Wikidata item, but no infobox).
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 00:00, 2 September 2024 (UTC) - PetScan knows Q117155434:
- I try search for d:Q117155434 at quarry:history/85965/925666/898247 but it didn't return anything.
- Compare with d:Q30047942: quarry:history/85965/925664/898245.
- page properties for Category:Naupliastraße_(München) still has "unexpectedUnconnectedPage": quarry:history/85965/925666/898247.
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 00:30, 2 September 2024 (UTC)- It will be a few days before I can set Pi bot running through these, as I'm currently traveling. Will be interesting to see if Enhancing999 can spot why they aren't showing up through the database query. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 05:15, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
- It seems to be a bug in the database. phab: might get you a more detailed explanation.
- After doing an initial run of Commons:Report UncategorizedCategories with infobox, I purged all items on the list and this cleared maybe 200 of 4500. At this proportion 5% of 9,500,000 unconnected categories might have an item, or at least the ones that haven't been edited since being connected.
- Maybe there is way to query the Wikidata database with a different SQL (I will try to, but it might take a couple of days).
∞∞ Enhancing999 (talk) 09:34, 2 September 2024 (UTC)
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